Jake...Need to pick your brain about a rubicon

[TRHOD]

Jake or anyone with an idea.......

I got an 06 rubicon and found this on a forum about how to make a reverse limiter bypass on a rincon

www.atvfrontier.com/Knowledge_Base/op=show/kid=43.html

Do you know what this blue on black wire that he is talking about goes to??

If so, do you know what this same wire would be on an 06 rubicon??

Do you know if this same procedure can be done to a rubicon??

Thanks for your help.

Blessings,

[Jake]

Did they take away the start in gear function for the latest generation? It used to be that all you needed to do was squeeze the left brake handle fully and they would start.

Sorry, it won't let me in over there. I've got to dig up a password someplace to get the new computer logged in. I don't know either machine as well as I do the Foremans, but off hand I would say that you shouldn't assume the same function for any given wire color. The bikes are too different. It's hard to say which is worse. Hitching into a wire that's not at all what you're looking for, or what I'd sooner expect, the same color wire having not the same but similar, additional, or reduced function.

[TRHOD]

They still have the start in gear (squeeze the front brake).

This mod was a way to basically get the bike to go as fast in reverse as it would go forward. On the surface this seems like a dangerous mod, however in certain situations (trying to back out of a mud hole) it would be cool to be able to maintain a higher rpm of the wheels when going in reverse.

This guy did it on a rincon, and I'm trying to figure out if it is possible with the rubicon.

Thanks for your thoughts.

BLessings,

[Jake]

Sory,m my bad. I read too quick.

I havn't heard of anything along those lines, however I'm sure it can be done somehow seeing how reverse is a function of the sub-transmission (Honda calls it a transmission), leaving the function of the transmission (Honda calls it a Hondamatic) to the same state (displacement and orientation) in both forward and reverse ranges.

I'll poke around a bit and see if I can come up with anything.

[TRHOD]

Were you able to open the link above to see what was done on the rincon???

If not it is located at www.atvfrontiers.com forum. You can find it in the FAQ section for honda entitled "honda rincon reverse override instructions."

He talks about a black and blue wire that is found in the yellow wiring harness. There are 2 other wires in this wiring harness, a green one, and a reddish pink wire. There is another blue wiring harness near to the yellow one, but this isn't the one to use. We're supposed to use the yellow wiring harness and the blue/black wire.

If you can find something out cool, if not don't worry about it.

I know that there are many differences between the rincon and the rubicon and being able to do this procedure may be one of them.

What I'm hoping is that the wiring for the rincon and rubicon should and/or might be the same due to both bikes utilizing the same hondamatic transmission. If this is in fact the case, I should be able to do this mod to my rubicon and have the same effect as the rincon.

What do you think???

Thanks for taking the time to help a bruddah out.

Blessings,

[Jake]

I still havn't figured out who I used to be on that site, so I registered again, and was able to look over that post.

That's pretty vague without a schematic to determine just what is what, but that would be basically what I would expect the procedure to be for a Rubicon. A simple switch so it doesn't "know" that it is in reverse. HOWEVER the locations and colors don't strike me as familiar.

My thoughts thus far:
1) Don't ever use those "scotch lock" wire connectors in the picture. You can not tape out the mud and water, and they WILL let you down. They're good for stuff inside a car dashboard where it's tight enough to prevent movement, and also clean and dry.
2) You MAY (but I don't know for sure) need a DPDT type switch so that you can not only eliminate the "reverse signal", but also emulate the "forward range" signal.
3)Even though the idea is right, I firmly believe (based on gut feel) that the wire you will be looking for will have a different color code.

I can assure you that I'm not putting much on hold for it, but I am poking around a bit. In particular for an OEM service manual wiring diagram, since seeking out a pre-designed and posted solution seems to be getting nowhere.

[TRHOD]

I've got a service manual on order, so hopefully, in a couple of days I'll be able to take a look at the wiring diagrams.

Do you know what this wire is connecting to ??

My best guess right now is a sensor that is somehow connected to the shifter (low range, hi, reverse) and maybe the computer.

Blessings,

[Jake]

trhod said:

Do you know what this wire is connecting to ??

Only a vague idea. definately not enough to run with.

trhod said:

My best guess right now is a sensor that is somehow connected to the shifter (low range, hi, reverse) and maybe the computer.

Absolutely, but again, not quite enough. There will have to be some form of electrical signalling device (switch or sensor) that tells the ECM what's going on. The trick is to duplicate that signal, A) correctly so that the ECM understands it properly and doesn't go into failsafe mode, and B) correctly so that the whole thing doesn't let any of the smoke out of the ECM. They don't sell smoke separately, so once you let it out, you have to buy a whole new controller. ;D