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Post by Ezrider on Apr 18, 2005 21:08:39 GMT -5
last few times I have been out I have noticed.........the response of my ES shifting has been just a slight bit slower when shifting up or down (at times) every time I check batt. voltage its high 13+ to 14 volts, I,m kinda thinking the shifting fork maybe the cause? or could the shifting moter be a slight bit week? It has been ran hard and shifted at High Rpms in deep mud holes and in deep water. would anybody have any Ideas on what would cause this?
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Post by mudchucker on Apr 19, 2005 1:23:31 GMT -5
you know what my bike acts up like that sometimes, not always or under the same conditions every time. Ihave asked around a bit but no clear answer. The best I got but have not looked at yet is that possibly the contacts inside the shifter on the bars are dirty/wet. Good luck, hope we get more feedback and info
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Post by Ezrider on Apr 19, 2005 19:49:55 GMT -5
Well I have also been told that, but if I set still in the shop or where ever, and hit the buttons it seems to shift just fine every time, it kinda appears to me that when its under a slight load is when it may not shift as fast as It used to, would yours be the same way?
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Post by Jake on Apr 21, 2005 19:37:08 GMT -5
When is the last time you guys adjusted the change clutches? Could it be time for that?
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Post by Ezrider on Apr 21, 2005 20:35:37 GMT -5
Their,s Jake..... I have not touched the clutch ajustment yet, but then again I only have a little over 800 miles on it. Question, the only ajustment I know of is on the front of the case, I was under the impression that .... that ajustment was only needed when there was clutch slippage? could it be that the clutches are to tight causing it to shift slower when per say, trying to shift under a slight load? like shifting up a hill say from 1st to 2nd.
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Post by Jake on Apr 22, 2005 16:49:26 GMT -5
If neglected long enough, failing to adjust the clutch will cause slippage as the plates wear.
In the interim, it is actually not a "clutch" adjustment that you are making, since the clutch is fully self adjusting and normally clutched (engaged) when at it's rest position. It is actually a "clutch release mechanism" adjustment. to accomodate the wear. It affects the timing of the actuall declutch and clutch. I know you're driving ES machines, but if you can picture a manually shifted one, lifting up to select a higher gear, the adjustment would set how far up the shifter has to be to declutch (release) to facilitate the gear change, and how far down the shifter has to be before it clutches (engages). The other thing is that the actual shift drum is directly tied to shifter position, not clutch position. So maybe it's an issue for one or both of you, maybe not, but it's definately related to how easily the shift mechanism moves.
Honda recommends it every six hundred miles BTW.
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Post by Ezrider on Apr 22, 2005 20:19:47 GMT -5
Interesting, sounds like it could be the cause? I will try a ajustment and see what happens?
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Post by Ezrider on May 4, 2005 19:47:59 GMT -5
Could week clutch springs cause it to this as well?
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Post by Jake on May 5, 2005 20:19:00 GMT -5
I would doubt it. I'm sure that the secondary (change) clutch springs being weak wouldn't cause that. I can't be 100% sure that weak primary (centrifugal) clutch springs wouldn't do it, but I don't believe they would.
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Post by Ezrider on May 25, 2005 19:03:41 GMT -5
Jake I tryed to ajust the clutch.........the screw wont move, the lock nut came loose but the screw will only rock back and forth 1/6 of a inch or so, I put a 1/4 inch wrench on my screw driver and cant brake it loose, in looking at the book which dont seem to show much on it? is it the ajusting plate that is stuck? I ajusted my 99 450 once with no problem, i,m not sure I under stand whats stuck in there?
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Post by Jake on May 25, 2005 19:16:41 GMT -5
There isn't much to be stuck except that screw its self. I'd loosen the locknut, get some penetrating oil after it, GENTLY play with it some, then leave it overnight at least, then repeat until it loosens up.
Don't use excessive pressure. If it moves some it's just a game of patience now. If the locknut is backed off so that it is completely at the end of the adjuster screw, then it will support the edges some, since the slot obviously isn't intended to make it a "high use" screw.
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Post by Ezrider on May 25, 2005 21:13:15 GMT -5
Well patience aint no prob  I dont have much time to ride anyway, Might get a chance this weekend to take for a mud bath.......maybe, so one day next week I will try some penetrating oil on it and see what happens, cant beleave its froze up like that, if I do brake it loose i,m thinkin I might put a dab of high temp silicone over it and peel it away next time I make a ajustment. Thanks for the reply. |
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